April 8, 2008
"Why She Never Eats Bananas, and Why I Do"
I met a very nice person a while back named Gina. We've been corresponding a bit via email as well. She's very excited about raw foods, but as is usually the case, she has been given lots of false information on which she's basing her dietary decisions.
In fact, she reminds me of myself about 10 years ago. I thought I knew a lot about nutrition. But I was filled with a bunch of unsound and unscientific information from the popular raw food and general diet books out there.
Of course, it was just such misinformation that made me fail on the raw food diet over and over again. Without the right information and support, most people are going to make a ton of mistakes and then wrongly blame it all on the raw food diet.
Compared to most people, even back then, I was a nutrition expert, but compared to what I know now, I was like in the third grade of nutritional school. I remember talking about nutrition and having this guy who overheard my conversation think I was a diet expert and that was over 11 years ago before I'd succeeded at staying 100% raw.
If he was fooled by my level of misinformation at that time, imagine how many people get constantly fooled by scientific sounding arguments in popular nutrition books.
Just because a doctor says it's right, it should be right. And yet most of the doctors contradict each other like crazy in these books. So being a doctor or scientist is not the only criterion to look for when judging the information you read.
Gina mentioned in a previous email that she would never eat bananas. I asked her to explain to me why she wouldn't. Below is her brief reply to me and my detailed explanation to her.
Much of her information is based on a popular diet book called "The pH Miracle." You have to be really careful with what you read because it can really lead you down the wrong path.
When you are new and inexperienced to nutrition and diet books it's very easy to be taken and overly swayed by the scientific sounding arguments. But many of these books are made up of half-truths and not based on facts. Or if they are based on facts, they only give you a small part of the nutritional picture, which doesn't work in real life.
I know what I teach works because I've seen the amazing results in hundreds of people. It has transformed my life and that of my coaching clients. Also the Optimal Raw Food Diet makes the most common sense.
I simply use facts and studies to help to convince you that what I'm saying makes sense. In the end, you'll know simply by trying it and seeing for yourself. Don't just take my word for it. Do your own experimentation and research.
This book, "The pH Miracle" isn't even a raw food book. So why would anyone want to base a raw food diet on this book? This book will make it very hard for you to stay raw and to do so in a healthy manner because it will scare you from eating most fruit. But it does so with incorrect information.
How could this book be so good if this author doesn't understand the hundreds of thousands of toxins that are created in the cooking process? Toxins, carcinogens, and mutagens have been proven by science to be created by the cooking process. Even steaming does horrible damage to food. Seems to me his knowledge is a bit lacking.
I do believe there is quite a bit of valuable information in this book, but you have to weed out the inaccurate information from the good information. This therefore leads to confusion and therefore failure with the raw food diet.
Someone who doesn't have a deep background in nutritional science won't be able to detect the truth from the fiction. This is even true of many of the so-called raw food gurus who support this book.
great to hear from you as well… My belief is that the banana is a very sick plant and it is not natural. it is man made beside it is full of sugar witch is very acidic.
Thanks for your explanation. But I think you have the facts wrong about bananas. Bananas are indeed natural. The bananas that we get in the stores have not been hybridized by man. In fact, it is rare for any American's to have even eaten a banana that has been hybridized by man.
Bananas are one of a number of plants that can grow with seeds or without seeds in the wild. Papayas and other tropical fruit also can grow wild without seeds.
I have confirmation from at least three different people who have seen seedless bananas growing wild (no farms, just in nature). One of them mentioned seeing seedless bananas growing wild on the side of the road somewhere in Florida.
Bananas have a special genetic system which is called triploid genetics. It allows them to easily go seedless and back to seeded naturally and without interference from man. They do so on their own and it is naturally a part of their design.
As for acidity. I eat lots of bananas on a daily basis (sometimes 20 or more) and yet I have alkaline readings when I do pH tests.
Here's another surprising fact. Did you know that you can actually become too alkaline?
Here are signs of excess alkalinity: from Conscious Eating, pg 60
* Anxiety & excitability, overexcitability of central nervous system * Muscle spasm, tetany, low tolerance of physical stimulation, muscle tension * Slow injury recovery, physical adjustments don't hold well * Muscle pain
The key is a balance. The alkalinity of the human blood is only very slightly to the alkaline side. 0 to 14 is the pH scale and we should be between 7.35 and 7.45 pH. The alkaline range starts at 7.
The pH balance of your blood is determined by many other factors besides diet. Breathing, emotions, stress levels and exercise are just a few of the other multiple components that affect blood pH levels.
Bananas are actually a super nutritious food in terms of many major nutrients we need. They are high 'as you said' in sugar (a vital human NUTRIENT by the way), which is by far the highest need we have out of all the nutrients except for air and water. Bananas are also high in water by the way.
Bananas are the number one food of top athletes around the world. I saw so many tennis players eating bananas between changeovers at this year's US Open. Maybe these professional athletes are on to something.
Bananas High In These Other Vital Nutrients As Well:
Potassium (You knew that) Fiber B6 (High in all the B vitamins except B12) Iron, Magnesium, a complete protein food (contains all 8 essential amino acids) Manganese Vitamin C Folate
Next, the perfect fuel for the human body is actually carbohydrate in the form of simple sugars. It burns the most cleanly and every cell in the body runs on sugar (not on fat or protein which also contain calories).
So sugar "by itself" may indeed be acidic, however when you are eating fruit, you are not only eating sugar, you are eating all the vitamins, minerals, fiber, phytonutrients, etc. associated with the fruit.
To label sugar as an evil is a silly notion because it is the primary fuel of the body and brain. It's another example of science looking at just one factor of the food 'the sugar content' and then making the wrong conclusions from that.
Sugar is the most important macro-nutrient. We need much more sugar or carbohydrate by far than protein or fat. Even if you don't eat sugar, the body will convert the fat and the protein that you do eat into sugar via gluconeogenesis.
Bananas are loaded with fiber and even contain 'guar gum' which is a fiber given to diabetics to lower their blood sugar levels. Heaven forbid you should feed the diabetic the whole food the guar gum came from.
Bananas and fruits in general naturally contain the fibers and nutrients to help slow the absorption of sugar. Nature knows what it's doing.
Plus, you can never get rid of sugar from your body. You always have blood sugar and must always have it in order to run your body. If it goes too low or too high, you will die.
Strokes: According to research in "The New England Journal of Medicine," eating bananas as part of a regular diet can cut the risk of death by strokes by as much as 40%.
Now here's something else to consider. According to nutritional anthropology all throughout human history, humans have eaten a low fat, high carb (or high sugar) and mostly raw food diet. It wasn't even possible until the last 10,000 years or so with the advent of agriculture to eat a high fat diet in most parts of the world. Even most wild animals are only about 3% body fat.
The reason I bring this up is because many of the raw food diets out there recommend an ultra high fat diet and claim that is natural and what humans have been eating since the beginning of their existence. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Before agriculture we didn't have oil, we didn't have shelled nuts. All humans were nomadic until agriculture changed all of that. Humans traveled in small groups of 35 to 50 people and defended a territory of about 200 miles. Almost every day they had to get up and travel to a new location in order to secure enough food.
Finally, what do our closest animal relatives eat? Our closest relative in terms of similar DNA and digestive system are the Pygmy Chimps otherwise known as the Bonobos. They are even more intelligent than chimpanzees which are our second closest genetic relative. (Humans are considered to be primates as well.) The next closest animal to us is the Orangutan.
All of these animals eat a low fat and high fruit diet. They also eat greens. The smarter the great ape is, the more fruit it actually eats. So if you believe that fruit is so bad for our health, then why is it the preferred food of our closest genetic relatives?
Eating fruit doesn't cause them to have cancer, it doesn't cause them to become diabetic, it doesn't give them a candida overgrowth.
Why do they all eat a super low fat and high fruit diet? Why do some raw foodists eat a high fat, raw diet and think it is natural? Minus eating coconuts all day long or being Eskimos, early humans never ate a high fat diet.
The Eskimos by the way, were not living in a natural human environment and they had exceptionally poor health including a life expectancy of 39 years and the worst osteoporosis on the planet.
The problem we have here is a lack of seeing the complete picture. Science is good at doing that. Look at a part of the equation, which is the truth from that perspective, but when you look at the whole picture that truth no longer makes sense.
Our ideal natural diet would be obtained by living in the tropics and gathering the wild foods ourselves. Our second best option is to eat the raw and organic fruits we have available to us and to balance out the fruit eating, by eating a lot in terms of leafy greens and green vegetables.
Stuff like celery, cucumber, and all sorts of lettuces will completely balance out the nutrient profile and give us an abundant supply of virtually all the minerals and nutrients we need.
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Hey Roger,
I'm with you. As a rawfooder now for 8 years (100% for 6) I can say that good information is crucial to how well we do. How do we get that information? By asking questions, seeking out support of like-minded and experienced people and by reading, researching online and networking. This blog and your website are fantastic sources of information and resources. We're living in such an incredible time of possibilities. There's no reason to stop ourselves from fully living and experiencing health and wellness. I want to tell everyone that I've never felt better in my life - the rawfood lifestyle is indeed foolproof - just don't be fooled by disinformation!
Dave
Hi Dave,
Thanks for sharing and posting on my blog. (Dave is a buddy of mine from NYC.)
He's done really well with the raw food diet. We used to attend raw food support group meetings together. He also makes movies, acts, sings and is a great guy. I'm looking forward to his movie with Matthew Grace.
It's incredible the scare tactics that are being used in many of the diet books and even raw food diet books out there.
It's those scare tactics and just bad science that made me struggle with going 100% raw for 5 years. If it weren't for the clarity brought to me by Dr. Douglas Graham I might still be struggling with the raw food diet.
Thanks again Dave for your post.
Be well, Roger
im a 100% raw vegan ultra endurance cyclist. i eat up to 60 large bananas in a day. they are such a reliable carb source to build up the fuel for tommmorrows training.
all these high fat raw authors do jack all exercise. just like me when i was eating nut butters by the spoonful.
raw vegan low fat..its where its at!
Re: All humans were nomadic until agriculture changed all of that.
No that is'nt true,look at the Aborigine and Maori.
Re:'Minus eating coconuts all day long or being Eskimos, early humans never ate a high fat diet.'
But what is unnatural about eating coconut all day and walnuts in europe and avocadoes in South America?Would these show that high fat is natural and healthy?
Re: All humans were nomadic until agriculture changed all of that.
The maori and aborigine would probably have just eaten a year round supply of shellfish and from one or several nearby areas and so with no need to be nomadic?And were they manly races?
Hi Carl,
Good question. There are many things to take into consideration with your question. The key here is we are talking about what would have been possible before agriculture which started about 10,000 years ago.
Nuts and seeds are seasonal or not available year round. Plus they are very difficult or at least time consuming to eat a lot of even when they are in season. And the nuts and seeds available wild are still soft and wet because they haven't been dried.
No bags of shelled nuts, nor where any oils available before agriculture.
Same problem with coconuts. They're hard to open up and acquire. There were simply other foods around that where much easier to attain.
No coconuts aren't so bad. The fat in them is mostly different than most of the other vegetarian and animal fat sources. But there's still a high quantity of the more damaging fats if eaten in enough quantity.
Sure humans can live in Europe but it's not their natural habitat because they would need clothing to survive beyond the tropical areas.
So when determining a natural diet, you have to start with what is possible to eat in the tropics.
The next point is even if some cultures did manage to eat a high fat diet before the advent of agriculture, where they healthy.
I can't answer that, but I do know that the longest lived cultures are low fat diets like the long lived traditional Okinawan diet used to be.
We know from countless studies the problems with a high fat diet for humans. I also know the problems I had with a high fat diet and also many people who I know or have coached on the Raw Food Diet.
Even if you feel good eating high fat in the short term, I venture to say you are risking damaging your health and having a much shorter life.
One of the big problems with a high fat diet is that it restricts your body's ability to uptake and transport oxygen. It's also a fact that the more fat there is in the bloodstream the more insulin your body has to secrete.
Excess fat does damage on so many levels. That is why I'd recommend that if people can't eat a relatively low fat raw food diet that they'd actually be safer eating some cooked foods but the diet overall should be around 10 to 15% of total calories from fat for ideal functioning.
Sure you can eat high fat meals and have high fat days. But over a week or even a month you want to stay in the 10 to 15% range. And you can be healthy with less than 10% fat as well. 7 to 8% of the right fats are likely all you need and an Optimal Raw Food Diet provides such fats without the need for eating overtly fatty foods like nuts, seeds, coconuts or avocados.
Roger
Carl,
As for the Aborigine and Maori. Realize this is not my area of expertise, though I have done some study on this.
It turns out that the original Aborigine were indeed nomadic and that now they use agriculture as well. And the Maori use agriculture.
So your arguments don't hold water in this instance. A book I read that had fascinating information regarding these topics is called "Natural Eating" by Geoff Bond.
He's a Nutritional Anthropologist. Check out pages 40-43 for a detailed discussion of what the Aborigine's ate and their lifestyle.
Roger
Gina's got bigger problems if she thinks a banana is man made. I'd like to know what kind of "herb" she's taking.
Phil what Gina probably meant was that she believed bananas have been hybridized by humans the way seedless grapes and navel oranges have been hybridized by man.
But from what I have learned this is not the case for the average supermarket variety of cavendish banana.
Roger
So, bananas are ok, you say.
Grapes should have seeds… Navel oranges not natural… But are they absolutely unhealthy or can they still be ok?
Should every seedless food except banana and papaya be avoided then?
And what are those "other tropical fruits" ?
Where can I inform myself best about the very basics of food choice like this if you don't feel like answering?
avocados, payaya, and kiwi are my favorite fruits… even if you try to convence me they're not healthy, I can't stop eating them ^^ I love tropical fruits, and berries as well (like raspberries, blackberries, strawberries and blueberries). I know I should eat alot of avocado (and can't aford to anyways), but I do eat them at least once a week.
edit:
shouldn't eat alot of avocados
sorry for the typo
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Hello
So I Googled the bit about bananas containing guar gum and can't find any supporting evidence. Seems guar gum comes from the guar plant.
Explanation please? Thank you
Nice informative post. Thanks Roger